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LaurentB
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 Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:39 Post subject: Problem with first client integration |
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Hello,
I am a french teacher. In my school, we already have a dedicated ubuntu server (called eole scribe, 8.04 with dhcp, domain...) for windows clients ' '
I want to install a new classroom with 15 debian clients. ' '
I have a local server (debian lenny) with choosed ip and m23 0.7.0 packages. I dont configure dhcp because I already have it.
To add a client, I try :
- to boot on a m23 client CD.
- to install the same debian lenny distribution.
(I dont know how to use lan-boot with my Atlantic L2 ethernet cards, I am nearly a newbie on linux ' ' )
I still have the same problem : I can add the client in the m23 web interface with mac, choosed ip, right mask and dns.
But it remains in RED status. And I have no hardware information. So I cant adjust this client...
So I need some help  Thanks
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LaurentB
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:47 Post subject: |
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I add the server status :
Server versions
- m23 version and patch level: 0.7.0 rock (100188)
- Installation medium: Unknown source
- OS: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
- Virtual machine or native: native
- Kernel: Linux serveur-linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 17:57:00 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Network settings
- Internet connection check: failed
- Domain name resolution check: ok
- Download without proxy: MD5 ok Size ok
- Download with proxy: MD5 ok Size ok
Daemons
- Apache: Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-1+lenny2 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8g
- MySQL: Version de MySQL: 5.0.51a Protocole de MySQL: 10 Uptime: 4705 Threads: 1 Questions: 1714 Slow queries: 0 Opens: 56 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 50 Queries per second avg: 0.364
Free disk space
| Code: | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 6728280 4299568 2086932 68% /
tmpfs 1027488 0 1027488 0% /lib/init/rw
udev 10240 84 10156 1% /dev
tmpfs 1027488 0 1027488 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda6 227705280 253236 215884844 1% /home |
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Hauke
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:45 Post subject: |
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Hi,
the m23 client CD will only work, if the m23 DHCP server is the only DHCP server in the network. This is needed to give some essential setting to the client on system boot via network.
A setup like in your network is not advised and not supported, but you can do installations with some manual work.
- Boot the client via the m23 client boot CD
- Get a console on the client
- Enter
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wget "http://<serverIP>/work.php?m23clientID=<clientID>" -O work.sh
sh work.sh |
Replace serverIP by the IP of your m23 server. The clientID has to be replaced by the value you find in the URL under Clients -> Overview -> Clientname.
Good luck 
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LaurentB
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:52 Post subject: |
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Hi Hauke,
I still have some problems :
- it seems that the m23 client CD cannot use the asus ethernet card. I can't ping... Later I will try with another (oldest) PC
- "under Clients -> Overview -> Clientname" I have nothing ! It is my main problem... As I wrote, I try to add a Debian client. But it doesn't appear in Overview so I can't adjust it.
About the DHCP :
When I install the m23 packages in my Debian server, I answer DHCP NO. Are you sure I should answer yes ? If so, I will try to manage the 2 DHCD servers in distinct areas.
Please let me know this point !
Many thanks !
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Hauke
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:24 Post subject: |
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Hi,
| LaurentB wrote: | | it seems that the m23 client CD cannot use the asus ethernet card. I can't ping... Later I will try with another (oldest) PC |
if the network card isn't supported, the rest of the network install can't work. Do you know what the name of the module is, that is needed for the network card? E.g. you can figure this out by running a live Linux CD like Knoppix. Or if you can't figure it out: What is the complete name of the network card?
| LaurentB wrote: | | - "under Clients -> Overview -> Clientname" I have nothing ! It is my main problem... As I wrote, I try to add a Debian client. But it doesn't appear in Overview so I can't adjust it. |
If there is no entry you didn't add a client. Did you add it under "Clients -> Add"?
| LaurentB wrote: | | When I install the m23 packages in my Debian server, I answer DHCP NO. Are you sure I should answer yes ? If so, I will try to manage the 2 DHCD servers in distinct areas. |
Activating the DHCP server is essential for working network boots. Deactivating the m23 DHCP is only for professionals who know what they do
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Hi,
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:58 Post subject: |
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For the client ethernet card :
I am just arriving at home 
so I dont have these Asus Barebone with me.
With a ubuntu live cd, what command can I do in a shell ?
In the server html console, when I try to add a client, it works. I have a good message but the client never appears in the overview. I dont have any message or log file to help me.
Today I am reinstalling my debian server with the stable lenny dist. As I have another job to do tomorow, I will install m23 next week.
For the DHCP problem, I already have an ubuntu (DHCP) server configured for many windows clients.
I prefer to have a separate debian server for debian clients. But with 2 DHCP servers I will have some problems...
How can I manage the IP adress areas for both DHCP servers ?
in a dhcpd.conf ?
-172.17.200.1 to 172.17.207.255 mask 255.255.248.0 for my ununtu server
-If I want to give 172.17.207.1 to 172.17.207.255 for m23/debian, what to do ?
The last possibility is to install m23 on the ubuntu server but there is so many things on it > I am not sure that my staff will appreciate this...
Many thanks for your help !
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LaurentB
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:14 Post subject: |
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I forgot to log in my previous post... sorry ! 
Another point : in my forum profile, I check to have an email but I never received one... Normal ?
Best regards,
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Hauke
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:56 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | so I dont have these Asus Barebone with me.
With a ubuntu live cd, what command can I do in a shell ? |
Please post the complete output.
| Quote: | | In the server html console, when I try to add a client, it works. I have a good message but the client never appears in the overview. I dont have any message or log file to help me. |
That is strange. Under overview should all clients be visible independent from the status.
What happens, when you open the following URL in the browser? Replace "m23ServerIP" with the IP of your m23 server.
| Code: | | http://m23ServerIP/m23admin/phpMyAdmin/sql.php?db=m23&table=clients&goto=tbl_sql.php&pos=0 |
| Quote: | How can I manage the IP adress areas for both DHCP servers ?
in a dhcpd.conf ?
-172.17.200.1 to 172.17.207.255 mask 255.255.248.0 for my ununtu server
-If I want to give 172.17.207.1 to 172.17.207.255 for m23/debian, what to do ? |
You could insert the lines of dhcpd.conf from the other DHCP server into the dhcpd.conf of the m23 server. Settings at the beginning of m23's dhcpd.conf will remain unchanged. So you could manage all your clients with one DHCP server.
There are other settings of the DHCP server e.g. only distributing IPs to known MAC addresses or waiting a few seconds before assigning IPs. So the m23 DHCP server would give it's settings before the other DHCP. For details you need to look at the DHCP configuration manual.
| Quote: | | The last possibility is to install m23 on the ubuntu server but there is so many things on it > I am not sure that my staff will appreciate this... |
If you install m23 on Ubuntu, you will get no community support, but you can get commercial support for not supported settings.
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LaurentB
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 22:59 Post subject: |
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Hi,
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I'll do these command lines on tuesday.
For the DHCP, I'm not sure this is the right solution.
- the Eole Scribe Ubuntu server is a dedicated PC server, allways turned on
- this Debian server is on a PC and will be turned on only when the clients will be in use.
So if I keep this configuration with 2 servers (at least to have a local access for Debian packages and I hope for m23 management) I think it is better to split IP adresses for both DHCP servers as I wrote previously ?
Thanks for your advices !
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Hauke
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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 14:46 Post subject: |
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| LaurentB wrote: | | I think it is better to split IP adresses for both DHCP servers as I wrote previously ? |
You can do so, but you must ensure that the m23 DHCP server gives an IP to the m23 clients first.
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LaurentB
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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 23:06 Post subject: |
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| Hauke wrote: | | you must ensure that the m23 DHCP server gives an IP to the m23 clients first. |
If I give a permanent IP to a Debian client (as I do for the Debian-m23 server), is it sufficient for m23 ?
Or do I need to configure the 2 DHCP servers ? and do you know how to do this ?
Many thanks,
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Hauke
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:59 Post subject: |
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| LaurentB wrote: | | If I give a permanent IP to a Debian client (as I do for the Debian-m23 server), is it sufficient for m23 ? |
The m23 server needs a static IP.
| LaurentB wrote: | | Or do I need to configure the 2 DHCP servers ? and do you know how to do this ? |
You must ensure that the m23 DHCP server sends the IPs to the m23 clients before any other DHCP server.
"Special settings" like your second DHCP server are not covered by the community support, that I give for free. You need to purchase the commercial m23 support, if you want me to help configuring your network. Please write me an email if you are interested.
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